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XVI: The Art of the Tale w/ Naomi Kanakia
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XVI: The Art of the Tale w/ Naomi Kanakia

This week we hosted

, a literary critic who writes about the health of the prestige publishing ecosystem and the value of reading the Great Books on her Substack . She is also an accomplished speculative fiction author, with stories published in major outlets like Clarkesworld and The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction.

Our discussion focused on the short story as a form, both in general and within the context of speculative fiction. We also discussed sentimentality in literature, the surprisingly messy origins of the novel, and, of course, Scott Alexander.

Whether you’re a new reader from the Scott Alexander post or you’ve been listening to us for a bit, we’re happy to have you! Thanks for listening!

TIMESTAMPS

00:00:12 - Introduction

00:00:52 - What is a “tale”?

00:02:06 - How has the way that we tell stories changed?

00:04:44 - Do the novel and the short story still have life left in them?

00:07:48 - Short stories as an indicator of institutional trust

00:09:59 - Scott Alexander as a literary author

00:11:51 - Short stories as “assassinating the reader”

00:16:46 - Misdirection and realism in the tale

00:19:22 - Storytelling formats that are lost in cultural translation

00:20:24 - Predecessors to the novel that have gone extinct

00:24:02 - Is Moby-Dick a novel or a really elaborate whaling facts book?

00:25:50 - Ted Chiang's “The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling”

00:26:46 - Are we moving from a written to an oral culture?

00:30:36 - Sentimentality in speculative fiction

00:33:43 - Naomi would like to see sentimentality come back to high literature

00:36:37 - Have sentimental novels been crowded out by other forms of entertainment?

00:38:31 - Are biographies the new sentimental novel?

00:40:51 - The ridiculously sentimental moment in Death's End by Cixin Liu

00:43:56 - Chengdu WorldCon and its consequences

00:46:32 - Treating literary conventions as inevitable

00:49:51 - The Goal: A Process of Ongoing Improvement by Eliyahu M. Goldratt

00:51:05 - The “shadow canon” of science fiction and its potential longevity

00:55:29 - Conclusion and final recommendations

00:56:09 - Synthesized Sunsets Backstage begins

01:00:22 - Gordon thinks that classic books are in some ways worse for modern audiences than their contemporaries

01:06:35 - Have we made mysteries worse for ourselves by getting too good at solving them?

01:07:22 - Kevin's article "The Most Underrated Speculative Fiction Writer of the 21st Century is... Scott Alexander?"

01:12:08 - “IT WAS YOU WHO MADE MY BLUE EYES BLUE” by Scott Alexander

01:15:08 - How much does Scott Alexander's nonfiction enhance his fiction?

01:16:59 - Scott Alexander is really good at injecting ideas into the idea space

01:18:54 - Conclusion and final recommendations

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