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X: Eras of Fantasy and Satire w/ Clifford Stumme (Past the Dragon)

This week we talked to fellow fantasy Substacker

() about his essay “The 8 Eras of Fantasy Literature” and how fantasy can enrich our lives beyond simple hedonistic entertainment. We also talk a lot about Ursula K. Le Guin, especially her novel The Beginning Place. And we poke some fun at both anime and romantasy (but hey, gave Fourth Wing three stars). Check it out now!

We messed around with the audio a bit for this episode, so if it sounds weird we apologize!! Also this is a re-upload because the original only had audio in one ear— sorry about that!

TIMESTAMPS

00:00:37 - Clifford's "Eras of Fantasy Literature" post

00:01:55 - Brief overview of each "Era of Fantasy"

00:09:18 - Kevin's case for the modern LitRPG / New Adult era of fantasy

00:14:19 - Clifford's defense of his “Fantasy Diaspora” characterization

00:18:11 - British v. American science fiction and fantasy

00:22:49 - Is web fiction the new pulp?

00:27:01 - The length of web fiction as a hazing ritual

00:29:31 - Romantasy satire and other predictions

00:34:53 - The Beginning Place by Ursula K. Le Guin

00:44:28 - Le Guin and Carl Jung's ideas about the shadow

00:47:18 - The limits of literary pragmatism and "Why Are Americans Afraid of Dragons" by Ursula K. Le Guin

00:54:03 - Demystification and childhood

01:00:23 - "The Stalin in the Soul" by Ursula K. Le Guin

01:07:07 - Conclusion and final recommendations

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